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rfjardim

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Re: Category Suggestions
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2018, 09:11:31 pm »
But then you might get political, cooking, gaming streams mixing?

We keep meaning to release tags, maybe that would do it.

You could replace tags by utilizing hashtags in the description and make those searchable.  Can even make it so there's a "Trending Tags" section to see which tags are being used the most.

Example would be how Twitter should work or how Minds does work.


Tags and Hashtags are the same thing ... what differs is the way we use, but under the hood they are the same!

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Re: Category Suggestions
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2018, 12:32:19 am »
There's a catch-22 when it comes to categories.

When searching for a video, you want it to be categorised into one, very neat, general category. It's hard to say 'I want a gaming video that also contains political rants about Hillary Clinton' in a way a search engine can understand, so you would want it broken down into 'Gaming. Rants. Hillary Clinton.'.

When presenting a video for an audience, people looking to 'game the system' (ala YouTube) want as many categories, tags etc as possible - so long as they're popular. Not even if it's entirely relevant. Simply so SEO picks them first in whatever.

So you've got several design issues to address (ones YouTube never solve but I hope to at least give some suggestions to BitChute/SPKOUT on):

1) Tags/Categories must actually be relevant to a video (sure, you could flag US government under Comedy, but politics is the more serious option).
2) The creator has an inclination to lie about tags/categories to get more clickthrough, and needs to be prevented or reduced.
3) Users must be able to consistently find similar videos to improve their search experience.

There's a couple of ways the above could be solved, with pros and cons:

1) Automatic tagging (software resource, could be inaccurate, pulls tags from the video descriptor automatically, or even video subtitles if it gets that far).

2) Community tagging (creator never tags their own video, but the community does instead - could be gamed by socks, bots, trolls, shills etc however).

3) Community tag ranking (creator tags their own video, but the community can up or downvote the individual tags, which changes how the video gets ranked relative to those tags - could be gamed by socks, bots, trolls, shills etc however).

4) Allow the user to add as many tags as they want, but they can only select one primary tag (primary tag determines in what type of searches they appear, unless the searching user specifies secondary tags).

5) Give users a limited number of tags to add, and the ability to 'buy' more (very, very cheaply) using the cryptocurrency.

6) Don't enforce anything.

7) Some other system.

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Re: Category Suggestions
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2018, 04:25:38 pm »
But then you might get political, cooking, gaming streams mixing?

We keep meaning to release tags, maybe that would do it.

You could replace tags by utilizing hashtags in the description and make those searchable.  Can even make it so there's a "Trending Tags" section to see which tags are being used the most.

Example would be how Twitter should work or how Minds does work.

Depending on how the system is done and the pages are coded, adding this option may require a total rewrite of the code ... how they did it, a separated field with only three hashtags works fine ... they only have to add onto the page where we upload the videos ... as it is now, you can only add tags when changing the setting of a particular video.